The ONLY pedal test I have seen that actually is representative . KLON and KLONE

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None of the stupid "knobs on the same settings" rubbish .
A not quite as good way is find a good sound in the real one then start with the settings the same but tweak until they are as close in possible by ear with the clone.
Any of you guys use one? or have an original. I have access to a gold original and it is very good as a boost or a nice feel on a break up tone that normally feels stiff and unforgiving. Getting too expensive for anyone other than collectors these days. Fortunately the clones are nearly as good.
 
I'm a big fan of the Klon and it was the first pedal I really did a deep dive with after I went DIY. I've built loads of them over the years. There's a bunch of little tweaks you can do to get a klone really close to an original vs just building from the Klon schematic.

I use mine as an OD most of the time and never use it in the popular gain at zero setting. I don't think it's any better than a bunch of other boosts I have for that job.
 
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KTR owner, but I find it shines when the amp is cranked and I rarely can. I find the same with my Prince of Tone. Not all pedals were/are made for home use.

I use other boosts and OD's mostly. But when I get the chance - hell yes!
 
Aelred said:
KTR owner, but I find it shines when the amp is cranked and I rarely can. I find the same with my Prince of Tone. Not all pedals were/are made for home use.

I use other boosts and OD's mostly. But when I get the chance - hell yes!
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I like a klone with my jvm at low volume. Gives it a nice kick in the mids while I'm playing with my strat or tele in the evening. It worked great with my Princeton at low volume too.
 
SillyOctpuss said:
I like a klone with my jvm at low volume. Gives it a nice kick in the mids while I'm playing with my strat or tele in the evening. It worked great with my Princeton at low volume too.
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Maybe if I played around with it more - I just found the Klon KTR itself to be best at volume, so it sounded a bit limp when back to normal. Not bad, just not the same Holy-Hell-WTF-Is-This!?! factor the KTR has when cranked.

The only Klone I have is an EHX Soul Food, which I don't care for. I do like the EQD Westwood for a "Translucent" OD at low volume.

YMMV.
 
Aelred said:
Maybe if I played around with it more - I just found the Klon KTR itself to be best at volume, so it sounded a bit limp when back to normal. Not bad, just not the same Holy-Hell-WTF-Is-This!?! factor the KTR has when cranked.

The only Klone I have is an EHX Soul Food, which I don't care for. I do like the EQD Westwood for a "Translucent" OD at low volume.

YMMV.
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Yeah the soul food doesn't really sound like a Klon, it's missing too many parts.

I don't think you'll hear much of a difference between a good Klone or a ktr either tbh, regardless of volume. Really only component tolerance differences like you'd get between two different ktrs. There all the same circuit unless the Klone's circuit has been modded, like the RYRA.
 
SillyOctpuss said:
Yeah the soul food doesn't really sound like a Klon, it's missing too many parts.

I don't think you'll hear much of a difference between a good Klone or a ktr either tbh, regardless of volume. Really only component tolerance differences like you'd get between two different ktrs. There all the same circuit unless the Klone's circuit has been modded, like the RYRA.
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WHAT?!? Mine has magic diodes! :bonk
 
Science, tests, evidence... what is this silliness? My KTR has magic diodes I tell you! (the fact that has the originals makes it worth more $$$ now - that part is no joke!)

Where is the Magic on that graph above? Magic is not measured in mA or V.

FWIW, I expect Rockett Archers and so forth to be superior to the Soul Food, which gets bad reviews many places and didn't make the graph above, which I expect to be accurate.

But my Klon KTR with original magic diodes really is worth more now. And I don't see resale $$$ on the graph either.
 
Aelred said:
Science, tests, evidence... what is this silliness? My KTR has magic diodes I tell you! (the fact that has the originals makes it worth more $$$ now - that part is no joke!)

Where is the Magic on that graph above? Magic is not measured in mA or V.

FWIW, I expect Rockett Archers and so forth to be superior to the Soul Food, which gets bad reviews many places and didn't make the graph above, which I expect to be accurate.

But my Klon KTR with original magic diodes really is worth more now. And I don't see resale $$$ on the graph either.
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What does resale have to do with comparing sound differences? What a weird flex.
 
Eagle said:

None of the stupid "knobs on the same settings" rubbish .
A not quite as good way is find a good sound in the real one then start with the settings the same but tweak until they are as close in possible by ear with the clone.
Any of you guys use one? or have an original. I have access to a gold original and it is very good as a boost or a nice feel on a break up tone that normally feels stiff and unforgiving. Getting too expensive for anyone other than collectors these days. Fortunately the clones are nearly as good.
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I have had three Centaurs and several KTR’s….I think I’ve tried just about every klone out there…although they were all fine pedals the one, to my ears, that sounds the closest is the Ceriatone Centura.

It has the familiar “sag” I got used to hearing with the original Centaur. So that is now basically a permanent fixture on my board.

To me the whole Klon “thing” is not what the notes sound like, rather what they feel like when you play them.

YMMV


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Colin the Guitaristas is using his new Warm Audio Sliver Centavo pedal in his video on YouTube today from Midday 👍
He’s deep diving on a nice guitar too 👍👌

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Honestly, I've never tried a real Klon or Klone.

Except the modeled version in HX, which I don't use.
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SillyOctpuss said:
Here you go. Curve trace of klon ktr diodes taken by grey bench electronics using a Dca75. That chart has all the info you'd need to pick diodes that clip like the originals.
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Dam you!!! ;) I've never got into the Klon thing but after finding Gray Bench Electronics YouTube Clipping Diodes videos I'm in!!!! I want to build my own and start searching for those "Magic Diodes"!

In all seriousness, the most interesting thing that I learned watching one of his videos is that if you use it as a clean boost the diodes are basically out of the circuit!

Edit. Here is Gray Bench Electronics's Google Sheet chart, easier to read there: Klon/KTR Diode Vf Curve Comparison

 
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