The 80s Tremolo Wars, Kahler’s first Interview… EVER!

I'm partial to the Kahler feel. It can be far more subtle than a Floyd. As for the roller saddle tone, I can't say because my guitar with a Kahler came with it so I have no reference for before and after. That guitar sounds good to me.
 
gonzoknife said:
I'm partial to the Kahler feel. It can be far more subtle than a Floyd. As for the roller saddle tone, I can't say because my guitar with a Kahler came with it so I have no reference for before and after. That guitar sounds good to me.
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70% of the interaction between the body and the string is lost. Sounds like shit and kills sustain as soon as you use it so it doesn’t matter what it feels like.
 
Eagle said:
70% of the interaction between the body and the string is lost. Sounds like shit and kills sustain as soon as you use it so it doesn’t matter what it feels like.
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As I said, my guitar with a Kahler has sustain and sounds great. Maybe I got lucky.
 
gonzoknife said:
As I said, my guitar with a Kahler has sustain and sounds great. Maybe I got lucky.
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No you didn’t and compared to a Floyd it’s not got sustain . Play a note above the 12th fret on a thin string unplugged and vibrato it with the bar. It just dies because of the design. It is slightly improved by a steeper angle over the saddles but a Floyd on the same guitar would be unbelievably better in this and resonance. I’ve explained why a few times in the past on here.
 
Eagle said:
No you didn’t and compared to a Floyd it’s not got sustain . Play a note above the 12th fret on a thin string unplugged and vibrato it with the bar. It just dies because of the design. It is slightly improved by a steeper angle over the saddles but a Floyd on the same guitar would be unbelievably better in this and resonance. I’ve explained why a few times in the past on here.
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Once again my guitar w/a Kahler is fine so please don't discount my experience with a guitar you've never touched. Not saying every guitar w/a Kahler is because there are a lot of variables. I get you don't like them. I do. Life is short. Play whatever you enjoy.
 
Eagle said:
No you didn’t and compared to a Floyd it’s not got sustain . Play a note above the 12th fret on a thin string unplugged and vibrato it with the bar. It just dies because of the design. It is slightly improved by a steeper angle over the saddles but a Floyd on the same guitar would be unbelievably better in this and resonance. I’ve explained why a few times in the past on here.
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Eagle said:
70% of the interaction between the body and the string is lost. Sounds like shit and kills sustain as soon as you use it so it doesn’t matter what it feels like.
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I have a PRS custom 24 with a factory installed kaler by John 'Orkie' Ingram and it's as loud unplugged as an acoustic, it's acousticly the loudest electric I've ever played, volume like a banjo
 
I had a Kahler, and the thing that killed me was that raising the break angle over the saddles killed the tuning stability. I could choose better tuning stability with a tiny break angle or better tone without the ability to keep the trem in tune! This was on the Gibson Shred V, a 2008 special edition. I eventually installed the Hipshot Tone-a-matic and the guitar started to sing; I mean it sounded incredible. Before that, even though I recessed the trem cavity and created a nice big break angle with the Kahler, I couldn't get that great of a tone, and there was a terrible ghost note. Even the ghost note went away when I went to the stop tail.
 
gonzoknife said:
Once again my guitar w/a Kahler is fine so please don't discount my experience with a guitar you've never touched. Not saying every guitar w/a Kahler is because there are a lot of variables. I get you don't like them. I do. Life is short. Play whatever you enjoy.
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I didn’t . It’s not like or dislike it’s physics. You’re happy with it, get it .
 
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State of Epicicity said:
I had a Kahler, and the thing that killed me was that raising the break angle over the saddles killed the tuning stability. I could choose better tuning stability with a tiny break angle or better tone without the ability to keep the trem in tune! This was on the Gibson Shred V, a 2008 special edition. I eventually installed the Hipshot Tone-a-matic and the guitar started to sing; I mean it sounded incredible. Before that, even though I recessed the trem cavity and created a nice big break angle with the Kahler, I couldn't get that great of a tone, and there was a terrible ghost note. Even the ghost note went away when I went to the stop tail.
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They are garbage it’s not about opinions. The design is just fundamentally flawed. It actually acts as a string damper in use.
 
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