Poly Effects AMPLE - Stereo NAM Player
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CakeEater
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It doesn’t. I’m not sure whether the curated profiles are made by them or are publicly available elsewhere, but looking at the manual, a lot of the amp pictures are taken in the same room at the least.
Personally I like that there's a curated selection of good profiles where I don't need to spend time dialling in good tones or matching IRs. I spend far more time doing that than than I would like, and this format allows for a much more plug-and-play approach, and on a snapshot of NAM too.
It doesn’t. I’m not sure whether the curated profiles are made by them or are publicly available elsewhere, but looking at the manual, a lot of the amp pictures are taken in the same room at the least.
Personally I like that there's a curated selection of good profiles where I don't need to spend time dialling in good tones or matching IRs. I spend far more time doing that than than I would like, and this format allows for a much more plug-and-play approach, and on a snapshot of NAM too.
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laxu
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I think they have made all the profiles themselves.
I think that's a good way to differentiate yourself on the market from units like Tonex. IK's stock captures do not impress IMO, and NAM captures are all over the place due to the nature of the platform.
People don't need thousands of captures. They just need a handful of good ones, and this has a whole bushel.
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I have nothing to do with this product - although the company itself is based only 25km from my house .... go Aussie's !!!
I like everything about it ... its quirky'ness and midi ... and I get the whole "non-option-paralysis" of getting 56 curated NAM models.
But given it would probably add zero cost to allow it to load your own and/or bought profiles and if it did the maker would literally not be able to keep up with the demand, its a mind-boggling, totally non-sensical omission.
Maybe ... just maybe ... the 56 Factory loaded NAM profiles are "done" / "tweaked" / "modified" in some way for the pedals hardware to be able to run them (?) and it cant run the standard NAM profiles from say Amalagam etc..... I don't know - this is just a guess.
But if this runs 56 NAM profiles, done in the highest quality stock-standard way ... maybe this can be added in a FW update .... assuming that the existing 56 Profiles are not hard-baked into a ROM which cant be added to or re-written.
Even if 56 is the capacity .... allowing them to be replaced would be equally "popular".
Imagine this pedal ... if it could load your own profiles ... in the Loop of a Fractal VP4 ... that would be a dream combo for many palyers who dont need massive amp-models-and-efx-chains.
I like everything about it ... its quirky'ness and midi ... and I get the whole "non-option-paralysis" of getting 56 curated NAM models.
But given it would probably add zero cost to allow it to load your own and/or bought profiles and if it did the maker would literally not be able to keep up with the demand, its a mind-boggling, totally non-sensical omission.
Maybe ... just maybe ... the 56 Factory loaded NAM profiles are "done" / "tweaked" / "modified" in some way for the pedals hardware to be able to run them (?) and it cant run the standard NAM profiles from say Amalagam etc..... I don't know - this is just a guess.
But if this runs 56 NAM profiles, done in the highest quality stock-standard way ... maybe this can be added in a FW update .... assuming that the existing 56 Profiles are not hard-baked into a ROM which cant be added to or re-written.
Even if 56 is the capacity .... allowing them to be replaced would be equally "popular".
Imagine this pedal ... if it could load your own profiles ... in the Loop of a Fractal VP4 ... that would be a dream combo for many palyers who dont need massive amp-models-and-efx-chains.
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I love the Aussies and while I appreciate the quirkiness and originality , it is just not for me
I would not have a chance of trying to figure this thing out without a screen or app
People were complaing about the nano cortex and how you would know what your using ,this to me is completely unintuitive .
the fact that I have to press buttons to get to the mids as they consider that additional features, also having to play "guess who" under the 5
choices in 5 categories , I feel like I am on a game show
I guess if it had and app or editor and you could save your 3 or 4 favourites I would work , but live I could see it being a nightmare, maybe just me
@laxu @Sascha Franck What ya got ?
I would not have a chance of trying to figure this thing out without a screen or app
People were complaing about the nano cortex and how you would know what your using ,this to me is completely unintuitive .
the fact that I have to press buttons to get to the mids as they consider that additional features, also having to play "guess who" under the 5
choices in 5 categories , I feel like I am on a game show
I guess if it had and app or editor and you could save your 3 or 4 favourites I would work , but live I could see it being a nightmare, maybe just me
@laxu @Sascha Franck What ya got ?
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Ooh... got some party poopers in here today! 
Alright alright, I understand the points people are making, but...
I really like it; and would actually buy it.
I like the alternative (and valid!) design decisions. It makes a lot of sense to me. Especially as I don't want to capture my own amps or trawl the endless list of captures out there.
Presumably by curating their own captures, it affords the stepped control positions on gain, treble, bass to reflect different amp settings on the real captured amps, rather than trying to layer on "fake" EQ and gain effects on top of base captures. Much like there are really many IRs behind UIs like L6 HX Cabs and FAS DynaCabs with positional mics.
By locking to these curated captures you can do this and guarantee a decent, pleasing and accurate sound at all settings. Furthermore, no need to worry about input calibration levels because it's already been done.
The AMPLE + VP4 would be killer!
Alright alright, I understand the points people are making, but...
I really like it; and would actually buy it.
I like the alternative (and valid!) design decisions. It makes a lot of sense to me. Especially as I don't want to capture my own amps or trawl the endless list of captures out there.
Presumably by curating their own captures, it affords the stepped control positions on gain, treble, bass to reflect different amp settings on the real captured amps, rather than trying to layer on "fake" EQ and gain effects on top of base captures. Much like there are really many IRs behind UIs like L6 HX Cabs and FAS DynaCabs with positional mics.
By locking to these curated captures you can do this and guarantee a decent, pleasing and accurate sound at all settings. Furthermore, no need to worry about input calibration levels because it's already been done.
The AMPLE + VP4 would be killer!
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eggpl@nt
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I need another modeler like a need a hole in my head, but this is pretty cool. If it ever does allow user-uploaded NAM profiles, it would be much more compelling, IMHO. At first look, I thought these were all amp+cab captures, but then I saw you can disable the IR. This has been tentatively floated as a birthday gift idea to my wife.
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I am not party pooping it , just I find that workflow at bit challenging and that ok that is on meOoh... got some party poopers in here today!
Alright alright, I understand the points people are making, but...
I really like it; and would actually buy it.
I like the alternative (and valid!) design decisions. It makes a lot of sense to me. Especially as I don't want to capture my own amps or trawl the endless list of captures out there.
Presumably by curating their own captures, it affords the stepped control positions on gain, treble, bass to reflect different amp settings on the real captured amps, rather than trying to layer on "fake" EQ and gain effects on top of base captures. Much like there are really many IRs behind UIs like L6 HX Cabs and FAS DynaCabs with positional mics.
By locking to these curated captures you can do this and guarantee a decent, pleasing and accurate sound at all settings. Furthermore, no need to worry about input calibration levels because it's already been done.
The AMPLE + VP4 would be killer!
Is it innovative yes , is it quirky yes
but from the demo sounds I have personally heard I don't prefer it to any of the other suspects , ToneX , NDSP, Hotone
Boudoir Guitar
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I feel like they would have been better off just calling it a new amp-in-a-box pedal based on proprietary technology. People would have been excited about that rather than “I like that it’s a fixed list of captures but why doesn’t it allow me to add my own captures?” Conflict.
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Yeah....but for the money....and for a particular savvy midi master, with a few other poly pedals...or other branded pedals that are midi capable, the amp choices for guitar and bass are steller and sought after.
There are some holy grail amps in there ....that can also be just used as a gain stage.....this could replace drives too.....very cool. Just wait a year, it will get improved upon....then it will be 260-300 USD used.....that will be an absolute steal. Especially for light, dual digital amp rigs.....this is very cool. Also....room...so at least it has a reverbish thing.
There are some holy grail amps in there ....that can also be just used as a gain stage.....this could replace drives too.....very cool. Just wait a year, it will get improved upon....then it will be 260-300 USD used.....that will be an absolute steal. Especially for light, dual digital amp rigs.....this is very cool. Also....room...so at least it has a reverbish thing.
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I really like this one. If they made a trimmed down version with like 6 amps for about half the price, I’d order one today.
I really only need like a Fender Twin Reverb, a Marshall Plexi style and maybe a Soldano SLO. I rarely use anything else.
I really only need like a Fender Twin Reverb, a Marshall Plexi style and maybe a Soldano SLO. I rarely use anything else.
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I think it's a great direction by Loki to take on the technology, amend it and tweak it to work in a way that suits users who aren't so interested in reamping their gear, and then release it as a curated product. I think this is a pretty fantastic example of using open source technology, and possibly a glimpse of what we may see happening from other bigger manufacturers should they decide to use the same (or similar) open source technology in the future. I really love how both Dimehead and Poly Effects are nailing these different approaches.
jellodog
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I've listened to some more demos. I like this curated approach. I'm starting to prefer the idea of the Ample over the IR-D I was lusting after, even though it's technically not the same thing.
Definitely prefer this over the UAFX stuff, which annoys me to no end.
I wonder how this deals with wildly different guitar input levels.
I have one guitar that has very weak output and another that runs fairly hot.
Definitely prefer this over the UAFX stuff, which annoys me to no end.
I wonder how this deals with wildly different guitar input levels.
I have one guitar that has very weak output and another that runs fairly hot.
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toneseeker911
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The pedal board market is way bigger than the all in one modeler market. Everyone’s targeting limited options, that’s what is selling. The everything box, with a 1000 options, editor etc are losing.
If anything, I think 56 amps is too many. They should have got it down to 8 of the best captures possible. If they have tone and gain controls, it might mean that they profiled the amp with different settings.
If anything, I think 56 amps is too many. They should have got it down to 8 of the best captures possible. If they have tone and gain controls, it might mean that they profiled the amp with different settings.
Dom Mcsweeney
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A little more info here for anyone wondering about the details re: tonestack etc..
Poly Ample - Amp Sim pedal
Questions for POLY EFFECTS: Can I load my own full resolution NAM captures into Ample? Does Ample use full resolution NAM captures or the feather light NAM captures? How low is the latency? Less than 1 ms? Do the captures coming through Ample have the same fidelity and sound quality as they...
www.thegearpage.net
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