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At practice last night; our drummer said he was having trouble hearing himself sing. Our monitor situation when we run our own sound, tbf; completely sucks. Will this mark the end of using real amps again? Would it push us into all modeling rigs? On one hand; I have all that gear, so not a big deal there. But otherwise concerned. Could he run in ears and the rest of us work with what we have?
 
saarangnarayan said:
You could have your drummer be on in-ears while the rest of the band uses stage monitoring. Drummer can even have a click track going to keep things neat and clean.
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That's kinda what I am thinking too. He's bought some gear as of late so he might inclined to drop some $ into things :unsure:
 
He can definitely run his own IEM mix with a little routing at the mixer. IEMs would be the best bet for a drummer just for not having to crank a wedge to ear bleed level next to him so he can hear himself.

Hopefully he doesn’t get the IEM itch and start asking for clicktracks after!
 
DrewJD82 said:
He can definitely run his own IEM mix with a little routing at the mixer. IEMs would be the best bet for a drummer just for not having to crank a wedge to ear bleed level next to him so he can hear himself.

Hopefully he doesn’t get the IEM itch and start asking for clicktracks after!
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I'd be fine with a click. As long as he wants to be in charge of setting it all up :sofa
 
mic in front of a cab sounds way better (to me) in my in ears than HX amp models or even an IR/loadbox situation from a real amp so I wouldn't necessarily fear a switch being an end to real amps...
 
At the end of the day though, IEMs are less fun in my personal opinion, and were it not for the fact that a significant part of what my band does is live looping and we play with a click, I would not be voluntarily using IEMs. Plenty of people love and prefer them tho so milage may vary
 
if he is the only one that wants it then it would make more sense to just improve his monitor. what is the current monitor situation for drums? why cant he just turn up his monitor or get more of his vocals in his mix?
 
sleewell said:
if he is the only one that wants it then it would make more sense to just improve his monitor. what is the current monitor situation for drums? why cant he just turn up his monitor or get more of his vocals in his mix?
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He is using my old Alesis monitor (shades of Alto horror @metropolis_4 ). He has it cranked but it isn't enough. He could certainly use a monitor upgrade. This also would then morph into "how loud can we truly get on stage" and I am not about making that worse than it already is :bag
 
Following this topic. We use IEMs only for new song learning in rehearsal, then ditch em. But curious to see how others use em.
 
So I haven't been a drummer in a gigging band for 20 years, but back in the day for rehearsals I used to actually mic up my drums, the guitars, take a DI off the bass, and grab vocals from our PA. I ran them through a mixer, took a stereo out to record (on Mindisc!), and then monitored through a pair of noise blocking ear buds with Shure tips. I really liked that because it brought down the noise levels and sounded really clear. This was years before big acts and even smaller acts started using IEM's.

Depending on the band, I'd be all about it. If it's a corner bar cover band I don't see the point, but for bigger stages it would be sweet. Especially if you get the drummer to foot the bill for most of the gear, and you just have to be responsible for the IEM's.
 
IEMs suck...i won't use them unless you have one of those personally customized molded IEMs. Kills all feel for me.

I like guitar cabs - it doesn't have to be loud with modelers.
 
spawnofthesith said:
At the end of the day though, IEMs are less fun in my personal opinion, and were it not for the fact that a significant part of what my band does is live looping and we play with a click, I would not be voluntarily using IEMs. Plenty of people love and prefer them tho so milage may vary
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This ^^^

There is an adjustment to moving to IEM. Things don't sound the same. Some things are better and others are worse. If you don't get really good buds the sound can be challenging to work with. Some people really don't like using IEMs and others love it. I think once you get used to them they can be a benefit if you have an easy way to mix them.

They make communicating a bit harder on stage. I have also seen some issues when one person is on them and nobody else is. In my last band the singer wanted them so he could hear himself better but then he couldn't hear us talking to him on stage if we wanted to change the order of songs or wanted him to say something to the crowd.
 
JasonE said:
This ^^^

There is an adjustment to moving to IEM. Things don't sound the same. Some things are better and others are worse. If you don't get really good buds the sound can be challenging to work with. Some people really don't like using IEMs and others love it. I think once you get used to them they can be a benefit if you have an easy way to mix them.

They make communicating a bit harder on stage. I have also seen some issues when one person is on them and nobody else is. In my last band the singer wanted them so he could hear himself better but then he couldn't hear us talking to him on stage if we wanted to change the order of songs or wanted him to say something to the crowd.
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Sometimes we will setup mics only going to the in ears at shows to communicate jamband tomfoolery to each other
 
JiveTurkey said:
You always use in ears, right?
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Drummer needs to invest in a good monitor.
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