Judas intro tab...

Ed DeGenaro said:
Man people and their need to get shit spoonfed.
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My first guitar teacher beat into my head the importance of ear training and learning how to work out recorded guitar parts by ear. I’ll admit, there were times where I had to rely on tab, but I’ve always forced myself to learn by ear when possible. It absolutely does wonders for you as a guitar player.
 
norminal said:
My first guitar teacher beat into my head the importance of ear training and learning how to work out recorded guitar parts by ear. I’ll admit, there were times where I had to rely on tab, but I’ve always forced myself to learn by ear when possible. It absolutely does wonders for you as a guitar player.
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Ears Are the instrument first.
 
I think it's also quite important to gain a full-as-possible "understanding" of how things are done on the guitar. Being able to discern if a note was picked vs pulled-off/hammered-on, knowing the nuances of a certain player, those sorts of things can help too.

You figuring out something by Petrucci that sounds articulate, and not legato? It's most likely that every single note is picked. Alternately.

Trying to learn something by Jimmy Page, and you know he's playing an open string (because you can hear how that note sounds), but it's a high D? He's probably using an alternate tuning.

Think back to Eruption, and many didn't even know how what they were hearing was being done on a guitar. Now we all know (once we're beyond just a beginner of course) and recognize that type of playing for what it is, so we know right where to begin to figure it out. If we hadn't learned how to identify that 'technique' if you will, we'd mostly be lost trying to figure out Green Tinted Sixties Mind. Ya know?

Just like how Ed tabbed out that JP song above.

And listening to a fast run, and being able to instantly recognize the type of scale/mode it's based on. Like hearing a passage, and knowing right away if it's harmonic minor, or diminished, for example. It's like seeing a color, and knowing it's a shade of blue-green.
 
Eagle said:
As a self taught person who started in the late 70s ears was “all” you had and a record deck with 16 on it to slow down Van Halen records . Mine broke with Rising Force.🤣
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Same here I actually used to slow the record player down by pressing my thumb on the album.
Later I got pretty good with the rewind button on the tape player that I could sorta loop 2-3 16th notes at a time.


@TSJMajesty
I remember first time I came across a sweep picked arpeggio in 81 it took a guitar buddy and I like a week to figure it out.
 
TSJMajesty said:
I think it's also quite important to gain a full-as-possible "understanding" of how things are done on the guitar. Being able to discern if a note was picked vs pulled-off/hammered-on, knowing the nuances of a certain player, those sorts of things can help too.

You figuring out something by Petrucci that sounds articulate, and not legato? It's most likely that every single note is picked. Alternately.

Trying to learn something by Jimmy Page, and you know he's playing an open string (because you can hear how that note sounds), but it's a high D? He's probably using an alternate tuning.

Think back to Eruption, and many didn't even know how what they were hearing was being done on a guitar. Now we all know (once we're beyond just a beginner of course) and recognize that type of playing for what it is, so we know right where to begin to figure it out. If we hadn't learned how to identify that 'technique' if you will, we'd mostly be lost trying to figure out Green Tinted Sixties Mind. Ya know?

Just like how Ed tabbed out that JP song above.

And listening to a fast run, and being able to instantly recognize the type of scale/mode it's based on. Like hearing a passage, and knowing right away if it's harmonic minor, or diminished, for example. It's like seeing a color, and knowing it's a shade of blue-green.
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About that...so my buddy was happy about the tab but wanted up close video he can slow with it...

It then really becomes a spoon-feeding thing.
And I kinda think that's missing a big chunk of needs to be learned.
That's usually also there guys that can't play a time beginning to end.
 
Ed DeGenaro said:
About that...so my buddy was happy about the tab but wanted up close video he can slow with it...

It then really becomes a spoon-feeding thing.
And I kinda think that's missing a big chunk of needs to be learned.
That's usually also there guys that can't play a time beginning to end.
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Damn! Does he want you to learn it for him too?
 
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