E-drums: could they be a common thing for small bands gigs?

[Sascha Franck]

Fwiw, I absolutely don't care about AmpITR, but I care a whole lot about KITR. One of the major issues with e-kits.

 

[HotRats]

... and what are your pearls of wisdom for handling a venue where you have a loud acoustic drum and a volume level problem and you can't get the vocals over the drums?

Got any recordings you have done LIVE to demonstrate the technique? How about a PA setup? Any advice on what you can do to help the situation.

I'll repeat it again.

If a venue can't tolerate the spl generated by a shielded drum kit, during a rock performance, it should stop hiring rock bands.

Asking drummers to use e-drums is not a solution.

And let's be real, rock, blues, jazz or folk drummers won't switch to e-drums, e-drums won't become the new standard with the current available technology.

 

[metropolis_4]

But someday, after a lot of money and resources are spent on R&D, mankind might finally invent the technology to make something really expensive that can finally do what any cheap drum made in the past 100 years could already do…

We can only hope

 

[FuzzyAce]

But someday, after a lot of money and resources are spent on R&D, mankind might finally invent the technology to make something really expensive that can finally do what any cheap drum made in the past 100 years could already do…

We can only hope

Progress.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I'll repeat it again.

If a venue can't tolerate the spl generated by a shielded drum kit, during a rock performance, it should stop hiring rock bands.

Asking drummers to use e-drums is not a solution.

And let's be real, rock, blues, jazz or folk drummers won't switch to e-drums, e-drums won't become the new standard with the current available technology.

Yup. As someone who played trumpet in jazz bands through college, and have played with a lot of good drummers, it’s entirely possible to have someone who’s not a roided out gorilla on the kit. But I’ve got no doubt there are places that still don’t want even that level of sound. For that, a nice acoustic guitar works.

 

[ChordInversion]

I also can't help but ask why anybody cares what is standard or common. There are and will be performance uses for both. How many in each case comes down to musicians and what they make.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I also can't help but ask why anybody cares what is standard or common. There are and will be performance uses for both. How many in each case comes down to musicians and what they make.

It’s mostly the hubris in insisting there’s an epidemic of too loud drummers combined with coffee shop-level SPL requirements, which IME hasn’t been the case in 30 years.

But yeah, use what trips yer trigger. I use an eKit with my bros, when the sound requirement is next to nothing, ie when the missus is watching NCIS reruns and the boys and I want to jam.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I honestly could care less what a band uses live, as long as the music is good and not ear-bleeding loud. Some venues just inherently don't sound that great no matter what, unless you're in a perfect spot.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I honestly could care less what a band uses live, as long as the music is good and not ear-bleeding loud. Some venues just inherently don't sound that great no matter what, unless you're in a perfect spot.

So you’re saying you care a little?

 

[FuzzyAce]

So you’re saying you care a little?

Yeah, I could definitely care less but don't feel like it right now.

 

[DrewJD82]

Many a sound guy has had to sit and listen to crap all night because so many musicians are so smart they know more than the guys running the FOH.

I know some guys that do FOH sound for a living, but honestly, they wouldn't put up with loud drums and guitar amps. They get paid good money (likely more than the people spewing fecal matter in my general direction could ever afford) .

Dude, get fucked.

Opinions are one thing but when you start with that shit you just show your ass. This is a good lesson in how to invalidate everything coming out of your own mouth. I dunno where you're from or who you work with (aside from high school proms), but that mentality in any professional setting I've ever been in will have you jobless and without a band to even run sound for, never mind non-musical professional settings. In those, it's assumed the person bragging about money has none of it to brag about, immediately.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Yeah, I could definitely care less but don't feel like it right now.

I’m here for you man, for when you need to be brought down lower in your caring.

 

[Orvillain]

Dude, get fucked.

Opinions are one thing but when you start with that shit you just show your ass. This is a good lesson in how to invalidate everything coming out of your own mouth. I dunno where you're from or who you work with (aside from high school proms), but that mentality in any professional setting I've ever been in will have you jobless and without a band to even run sound for, never mind non-musical professional settings. In those, it's assumed the person bragging about money has none of it to brag about, immediately.

He's just some cunt who owns a Kemper. That's it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I know some guys that do FOH sound for a living, but honestly, they wouldn't put up with loud drums and guitar amps

Fairytales from a parallel universe.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I’m here for you man, for when you need to be brought down lower in your caring.

I'm a WIP, give me a few more years.

 

[DrewJD82]

He's just some cunt who owns a Kemper. That's it.

I won't bust any balls about the Kemper but the "people who earn more than you know more than you" concept deserves some flack, especially when used in a way to put others down. The amount of inexperience wrapped up in that statement says more than enough.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I won't bust any balls about the Kemper but the "people who earn more than you know more than you" concept deserves some flack, especially when used in a way to put others down. The amount of inexperience wrapped up in that statement says more than enough.

I mean, I don’t know if I make “high school prom” money, but I do alright.

 

[Chocol8]

I mean, I don’t know if I make “high school prom” money, but I do alright.

I definitely make “high school prom” money, but only at my main job, and it takes more than one day.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I definitely make “high school prom” money, but only at my main job, and it takes more than one day.

I don’t care if someone’s flipping burgers, or playing with hedge funds, looking down on others for their income is about as cunty as it gets. So Drew is right.

 

[fiftyshadesofslay]

I think we need to explore the possibility that no fucker actually earns 10k to DJ a prom and he’s absolutely full of it.