Drop pedal: split signal $#*tpost

[Iron1]

Have this goofy idea of running into a Drop pedal, just going down from C# to B, then splitting the out.

1st split, goes to tone shapers (dist/reverb/etc)

2nd split goes to a second Drop, then goes down an octave

Then bringing the signal back to one then to the amp input.

This is for bass, fyi, with the hope of having some more foundation shaking ability at certain times.

Not sure I want to kick out the cash for another Drop just to figure out this is a dumb idea.

Thoughts?

 

[la szum]

Around 2005-ish the bassist in our band bailed on us right before an whole summer of gigs and
we (or I did) ended up doing a whole faux-bass thing with a POG and split signals. It felt intimidating
at the time and I was super insecure about it. But no bassist and no options to get someone up to
speed on our material in such a short time. I was actually totally stoned after practice when I came
with the rig. And then we rolled like that for a couple of years.

As for your query, I'd be curious about the latency running multiple digital units like that before hitting an amp.
Could be a glorious wash of thunder, or push the train off its tracks.



It could definitely work. And it could bring a new element to the band, too. I am all up for exploring
new and novel ways to get from point A to point B.

 

[dronerstone]

Have this goofy idea of running into a Drop pedal, just going down from C# to B, then splitting the out.

1st split, goes to tone shapers (dist/reverb/etc)

2nd split goes to a second Drop, then goes down an octave

Then bringing the signal back to one then to the amp input.

This is for bass, fyi, with the hope of having some more foundation shaking ability at certain times.

Not sure I want to kick out the cash for another Drop just to figure out this is a dumb idea.

Thoughts?

Why 2 Drops?

I bet a Drop dropping a Drop won't sound as good as you'd think. An algo algo'ing an algo, probably not the greatest idea, imho.

If you need a split and the octave, I'd say get a used Micro POG (dry out!) and call it a day.

PS: or use a decent ABY switcher before the octave conversion, so you can separately mute both signals (e.g. Royal Blood).

 

[Iron1]

Why 2 Drops?

We play in C# and B, so the first Drop is to take a C# tuned bass to B. The second Drop would be to take that down an octave.

Around 2005-ish the bassist in our band bailed on us right before an whole summer of gigs and
we (or I did) ended up doing a whole faux-bass thing with a POG and split signals. It felt intimidating
at the time and I was super insecure about it. But no bassist and no options to get someone up to
speed on our material in such a short time. I was actually totally stoned after practice when I came
with the rig. And then we rolled like that for a couple of years.

As for your query, I'd be curious about the latency running multiple digital units like that before hitting an amp.
Could be a glorious wash of thunder, or push the train off its tracks.



It could definitely work. And it could bring a new element to the band, too. I am all up for exploring
new and novel ways to get from point A to point B.

Totally agree in the thunder or derailment.

There’s a band here we’ve played a few shows with called Northern Hammer. Insanely heavy. They’re a 2-piece, guitarist splits his signal and EQs out all the high end on one signal then runs that thru a bass amp. Sounds like thunder - for sure.

I asked him right after posting this thread and he suggested getting a Morley ABC… so, since we always need #reasons to buy more gear here, Im looking for one.

 

[Sleezy E]

 

[FuzzyAce]

 

[0XI0]

I'd be curious about the latency running multiple digital units like that before hitting an amp

digital pitch drop is one place I do love the feel of latency.

bass sounds best way behind the beat, and the best live players sit behind the pocket. rhythm section always sounds good dragged, rushed rhythm only works with latin percussion lmao

I like adding 30-50ms or more of signal delay to 100% wet digital octave down, fractal is great for that stuff using the pitch tracker and synth blocks and octave on 3 or 4 rows of parallel processing.

the feel with old slow simple octave down is like the sound of a stand up bass, where it's so slow and floppy you have to actively lead the timing like swinging a bat with weights on it, i like the extra load

 

[Iron1]

Good idea on the Fractal. Maybe I’ll try and build a preset in my Stomp that does what Im after and see how that goes…

 

[dronerstone]

Good idea on the Fractal. Maybe I’ll try and build a preset in my Stomp that does what Im after and see how that goes…

You could try the Poly Capo right up front and split/route one of the sends to the Digitech Drop for bass duties.

 

[0XI0]

Good idea on the Fractal. Maybe I’ll try and build a preset in my Stomp that does what Im after and see how that goes…

stomp will let you split to 2 lanes, plus I think the synth blocks have built in pitch tracking, and dry/wet mix, you could even run synth mix with guitar into octave down.

my other favorite thing to do is run mod in front of pitch shifter where the mod either thick chorus or vibrato is confusing the shit out of the pitch shifter on purpose lol.

bass guitar tone really benefits from making a complete mess of one or more parallel signal chains

 

[JiveTurkey]

If you want to shake foundations; adding a second 8x10 to the mix will probably do that better than a Digitech Drop

 

[FuzzyAce]

If you want to shake foundations; adding a second 8x10 to the mix will probably do that better than a Digitech Drop

I may or may not have had an Ampeg 8x10 for a while...

 

[Iron1]

If you want to shake foundations; adding a second 8x10 to the mix will probably do that better than a Digitech Drop

I have no lack of cabs/speakers. Kinda blows my mind how cheap bass gear is compared to guitar stuff.

I run a GK 700rb into one Hartke 115 and one Hartke 410. Only turned up past half way once and literally my whole house was vibrating with the bass.

 

[gearJunkie]

Phase issues may materialize due to mixing the splits with differing latencies.

That doesn't mean it will sound bad; it could be awesome.

The only way to know is to try it.